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Devlan



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PostSubject: New Chaos list   Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:26 pm

Lord Incantaus (CSM)
Mark of Khrone
Power Armour
Chain-Axe
Bolt pistol

Brother Marzeh (champion)
Mark of Khrone
Las-Pistol
Combat Knife
Flak Armour

Chosen Zakair
Mark of Nurgle
combat Knife
Grenade Launcher
Carpace Armour

Chosen Veticon
Mark of Nurgle
combat Knife
Carpace Armour

5 The asparing (Cultists)
Auto Pistol
Mesh Armour
Combat Knife

Brother Annhialtor Constas
Mesh Armour
Heavy Stubber
10pts left over

Im a colusal noob but I liked mordheim and i love 40k so this should be a good fit.
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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:16 pm

Ok, so Khorne it is. My suggestions are based on how 'Khorne' you want the unit to be.

The space marine is kitted out well given his strengths.
I would probably make the champion undivided (it's free and the heavy bolter option (they are the only ones who can get it) later on could just be amazing) - Rather than put him in close combat use him as a sniper - possibly with a bolter longer term (see DoZer I did listen when I wrote my chaos list! Just Kidding).

Biggest list changer is the Rare 5 factor (it is tucked away in the rulebook). Essentially, you can have any Rare 5 or less (including common) items during initial set up, but none with greater rarity (unless you have a special rule that says otherwise)

Carapace is Rare 7 so not available at initial recruitment. The current depot for the heavy stubber has it as common (this is a misprint - Rare 6/7 also - but you can always play it as printed - it will be changed for v0.6.4).

I'd drop the armour off the cultists (it will rarely save them and is a huge points drain). An alternative would be to give them auto guns rather than pistols - or stick with the auto pisols and just use them as meat shields.

Spend the money saved from the carapace and mesh (and mark of khorne?) on giving a weapon to the second chosen and perhaps getting a second annhilator. Plus, remember that the grenade launcher only has limited ammo that needs replacing - so a couple of extra grenades wouldn't go amiss.

Hope this helps - enjoy playing Death Squads!

Cheers Laney Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:43 pm

Lord Incantaus (CSM)
Mark of Khrone
Power Armour
Chain-Axe
Bolt pistol

Brother Marzeh (champion)
Mark of Khrone
Las-Pistol
Combat Knife
Flak Armour

Chosen Zakair
Mark of Nurgle
combat Knife
Grenade Launcher
Flak Armour

Chosen Veticon
Mark of Nurgle
Lasgun
combat Knife
Flak Armour

5 The asparing (Cultists)
Auto Pistol
Combat Knife

Brother Annhilator Constas
Mesh Armour
Hvy Stubber

Brother Annhilator Bob
Mesh
Flamer

Despite the stubber being misprinted I would to try it out and once updatred ill remove Wink. Khorne is my favorite god and thought of putting on of his chosen on a ranged weapon appaled me, he wont ensure khrone gets maxinum blood. Took off
armour on cultist new name the meatsheilds. Added Bob the Annhitor (flamer)
2nd Chosen got a new las gun demoted carpace to flak. Everything checks out now i think
21 points left over one cultist with no gun?
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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:28 am

Looks good to me - maybe just keep the credits for the CSM upkeep cost (you'll probably need to replace one or two of the cultists anyway - average is two kills per game (ish)).

Cheers Laney Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:44 pm

You need Weapons Training, Heavy Weapon to use a Grenade Launcher. Other than that... the list looks scary!!! Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:57 am

Shouldn't you give that Khorne Champion (Marzeh) a close combat weapon? Combat knife for a berserker warrior... nahh.

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:49 am

He has a chain axe and a pistol which i believe give one extra attack unless that has to be 2 melee weapons. (I'm bit of a Noob)
Greystone and I should have a few bat reps next week (played 2 games but havn't written up the games yet)
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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:39 am

Your CSM has a chainaxe, your Khorne champion doesn't...

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:49 pm

I agree with Arachas... the power of the Mark of Khorne must be maximized... drop the Las-pistol. Sword and Chain! Nasty combo!

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:44 pm

OH i see my bad Wink
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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:57 pm

I'm confused. Can you even buy a chainaxe at creation? Its rare 7 isnt it?
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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:02 pm

whiskeytango wrote:
I'm confused. Can you even buy a chainaxe at creation? Its rare 7 isnt it?
You are 100% correct whiskeytango. You can't start with a Chain-Axe because it is Rare 7.

Gentlemen... we just SCHOOLED by the noobie! Shame on ALL of us! Embarassed

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:35 pm

Mordheimer wrote:
whiskeytango wrote:
I'm confused. Can you even buy a chainaxe at creation? Its rare 7 isnt it?
You are 100% correct whiskeytango. You can't start with a Chain-Axe because it is Rare 7.

Gentlemen... we just SCHOOLED by the noobie! Shame on ALL of us! Embarassed

Why haven't I noticed this thread before??? Its what I get for only responding to threads pertinent to design.....


I sometimes worry about you three.... way to earn that Dev tag!!!

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:10 pm

I should put a temporary ban on all three of you **Looks at Mord, Laney, and Arachas**

TERRIBLE advice to give this gentlemen.....ESPECIALLY since you all missed some pretty major things in his initial squad.

If you were in front of me I would smack all three of you across the head.

My changes and comments in red.


Lord Incantaus (CSM)
Mark of Khrone
Power Armour
Sword
Bolt pistol


Cannot start with the chainaxe as the rarity is to high.
Keep the sword, as its great in a MoK Berserker


Brother Marzeh (champion)
Mark of Khrone
Slugger
Axe
Flak Armour
Changed the las-pistol to a slugger. It
gives you the same strength as the las-pistol,
and the start of the campaign you won’t be facing many opponents with
armor on. The combat knife is ok for recruits and a back up weapon, but you
need to maximize the MoK with your officer. I prefer axes, but you can replace
it with whatever you would like




Chosen Zakair
Mark of Nurgle
combat Knife
Autogun
Flak Armour


He can’t use the grenade launcher, as it requires the heavy
weapon skill to use. Switch this out for an autogun instead.




Chosen Veticon
Mark of Nurgle
Autogun
combat Knife
Flak Armour
Switch out the lasgun for the autogun, again you won't need that AP value.





5 The asparing (Cultists)
Auto Pistol
Combat Knife

Brother Annhilator Constas
Mesh Armour
Grenade Launcher
2 x Frag Grenade


1 x Incendiary


Cannot start with the heavy stubber as it is rare 7. Switch
it out for that grenade launcher, and buy some frag and incendiary.


Brother Annhilator Bob
Mesh
Flamer


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So with those changes you have 5 credits left over. If you want you can drop that grenade launcher/grenades for another flamer, that will net you another 24 credits. That will give you a net of 28, which you can purchase another cultists and just let him run around with a knife, probably would be best to call him "Meatshield".

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2. Though shalt not refer to thine brethren, whom the Emperor has dictated be armed with an incendiary weapon, as a "Flamer" constantly. For this has been proven to lower morale and cause strife within His Most Holy showering facilities.
3. Thou shalt not follow a Librarian around thinking, "Can you hear me now", repetitively in an attempt to drive him insane.
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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:29 pm

I feel really bad about this (I did pick up some of the wrong stuff - at least on the first list - but no excuses). I'll try better next time DoZer!



Laney:D

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:12 pm

DoZer wrote:
I sometimes worry about you three.... way to earn that Dev tag!!!
Smack Stick of Doom Smack

I feel so little...

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PostSubject: Re: New Chaos list   Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:44 am

Thing is, guys... we ARE n00bs when it comes to Chaos Cultists! I've got a Slaanesh squad that I've used like three games. DoZer is master of Chaos, not me!

Having said that, I'm going to go and curl up in a corner now... Sad

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