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PostSubject: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:32 pm

A few months back I posted some WIP shots of some Imperial Renegades in the Paint for the paint god event. Since then they have mostly sat in a box. I painted two in a test scheme and didn't like it. I was overseas, so it was hard to find different colors to paint with.


That was then. Group shot from 6 months ago.

I have since picked them up again and have mostly finished converting a small squad. Here are some pictures. I will update this log as I paint them.


Family shot


2 militiamen with pistols and close combat weapons and 1 militiaman with autogun


Lads got talent hero with flamer, ogryn with buzzsaw, renegade commander with power sword and bolt pistol (in holster)

Finally, some artsy shots of the new heros.


Trashcan man.


The boss. He has a bit of a star wars feel and attitude in my opinion. Any guesses as to what bits he is made of?


I just made this interesting weapon today. I think it looks quite deadly, so I want to try and add them to a few more models.


I also tried some new photo techniques for this picture. I put some tissues over two lights and set it up with a little background. It didn't really work too well. My camera is old and seems to be having a bit of trouble lately with focus and battery life and all of those important things. I need to figure out a new way to take good pictures. This almost caused a fire...




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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Oct 28, 2011 4:35 pm

Oh yeah, the ogryn is barely started! I have some cables I am going to run to his mouth and then his head will be covered in a big head cover. I can't decide if I am going to sculpt clothes on him or not. I was planning to, but he looks alright in the pictures as he is. I might just add a few little details and leave the rat feet and things. Thoughts?
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:31 pm

YES! The second group shot is just awsome! Very scenic!

I just love when people mod, as I just took it up myself, and I'm quite impressed, and very inspired by your ideas. The stake bound to the hand is cool!

And on top, they look really evil... =)
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:37 pm

Thanks Komfritten. I was trying to make sure they looked suitably evil. Most of the evilness is achieve through head swaps and nasty looking weapons.

I am a bit conversion mad. I convert everything. I actually can't remember the last time I built a model that was not converted in some way. Probably some of my chaos marauders. Some of these conversions took a long time. Like the arm carrying the jerry can on the officer-it took me ages to figure out how to attach a hand to the jerry can. Eventually I just cut the hand off and wedged a hand in there with some glue.
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Oct 28, 2011 5:52 pm

Niiiiiiiice OMG! SO many cool conversions! Moar... MOAR!!

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:31 pm

Wow! Where is that Ogryn! LOVE HIM!!!! Kissy Great model!

Did you use Natural Light bulbs? The light looks yellow. Makes a HUGE difference. Also, you may need to do a 'white wash' if your camera allows (basically re-calibrate on white).

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Oct 28, 2011 7:01 pm

Arachas-more coming soon.

Mordheimer-no new light bulbs yet. They looked very yellow before I corrected on my computer. The Ogryn is the Island of Blood rat ogre.

I need some opinions on the ogryn. Should I just cover his head and add some cables and things or should I go all out and try to sculpt some armour and boots?
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Sat Oct 29, 2011 3:28 am

Top notch renegades - as komfritten said, love the conversions always inspiring.

On the ogryn - I'd make him a little more ogre - some leg armour and loose body armour should be enough - otherwise he may look a little too top heavy.

Your commander is amazing. I'll guess the bits I can...
Head: space marine commander plastic kit
Body: the new generic chaos sorcerer plastic
Backpack: chaos marine
Holstered Pistol: chaos marine (older version?)
Sword: chaos marine
Skull belt buckle: a servitor - from the cadian command squad?

I love all the subtle changes to create renegades - wrist blades (consider that idea stolen) , jerry cans, pipes, flagellant bodies - they do a great job of twisting the imperial look. The commander is a long way down the road to corruption, but I can see how he would cow the others into following him.

Very cool weapons conversions too - the autoguns and shotguns are spot on.

Cheers Laney Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Sat Oct 29, 2011 9:03 am

Narcissus wrote:
Mordheimer - no new light bulbs yet. They looked very yellow before I corrected on my computer. The Ogryn is the Island of Blood rat ogre.

Ahhh! Picassa is wonderful! The software is free, super easy to use and gives you 1 GB web album space (free!)

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Sat Oct 29, 2011 5:13 pm

Laney-mostly correct. The skull is actually trimmed off of a chaos marine torso. The torso itself is Khorne Berzerker as is the holstered pistol. Grenades and pouches are cadian. Arms are catachan, sword and sword hand are chaos marine. Head is space marine commander (I think!). The leg area is the new chaos sorcerer.

I saw some great conversions with the new plastic characters that inspired me to make the commander. I am pleased with him. He looks commanding and dangerous and corrupt but still fits into the asthetic of the rest of the warband. I like having really commanding, obvious, and ornate HQs. I was stuck on it for a long time. I wanted something a bit bigger and more imposing.

I ordered the bits for the torsos of a few more plastic heros to convert into characters for this warband and other future ones.

I am still really torn on the ogryn. The muscley chest looks pretty cool. I could maybe keep the feral look by just adding armour plates to different places and not sculpting a full cadian chest plate and pants (plus that would be hard work).
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:04 am

As per Arachas' request, here is MOAR.

I did a little more work. First I decided to try and make some masks like the Forgeworld renegades (which I think are some of the nicest miniatures in the whole citadel range).


These are hard. Getting the proportions right and making the eyes is really hard. Not sure if I am pleased with it. Still need to sculpt a head on the fellow on the left.


I started adding armour and a mask to the ogryn. I think I will just add plates and not full armour so I can keep the feral look. I like his chest too, and haven't decided on whether to cover it yet or not. I am 50% happy with the mask. I might tear it off and try again. What do you guys think?


With no warning, today my girlfriend came across while I was working and started playing with green stuff. First she added a turban to a model and then made a snake and then decided to add a tail, make a pumpkin, and add ear muffs to these models. I am pleased she was interested. Now I am going to get her to paint her gretchin.

Even better, tonight she agreed to play a game with me! First we played a little 2 vs. 2 match so I could show her how moving, shooting and combat worked. Then we played a small match (10 models each, included heros, cool weapons, and cool units) on terrain. It went pretty well. She says she enjoyed it. I was cursed with rolling really good injury roles on my shooting. Fortunately her orks ate my renegades alive in close combat and I ended up winning our annihilation match with only 2 models left. I had a really good time and she said she enjoyed it and would play again some time. Here are a few poor pictures from the match.


A half painted ork burna boy hides in the ruins (she thought it was ridiculous that orks had funny names for things (shoota, burna, hard boy, etc).


A grey wall of renegades picks off a lonely ork.
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:56 am

Great! I'm happy she enjoyed the game. Tell her to read the entry on Gretchins. She will get a nice laugh. Then tell her that I said that she IMPROVED on that Gretchin! Ear-muffs? Sure! So the poor little guy doesn't have to hear his companions scream while they are used as toilet-seat warmers WHILE the Orks are using the latrines! Heheheh... love the little pumpkin!

The pics look great, and the Ogryn looks AMAZING! I agree with you that metal plates attached with rope or chain would work better!

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:44 pm

Awesome bunch! Love the conversions!
I'm a conversionfreak myself so I really enjoy seeing other "freaks" their work! Keep on inspiring us! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:49 am

In the family shot up there is that a grot with a dwarf head? aka a Squat?

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:20 am

Love the Ogryn. I would advise trying to just get some of the Renegade models off eBay, though. I mean, you can obviously sculpt them yourself... but the models really ARE amazing. And if you're lucky you can get them for far less than what you'd have to pay FW.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:04 pm

Dysturbed-it is a human head on a grot. I'm still undecided on it.

Arachas-I probably should have just ordered the models initially as it likely would have been cheaper too! I might still order some renegades as they are incredible sculpts. I enjoy the challenge of trying to sculpt and model different things as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Tue Nov 08, 2011 4:50 pm

I want to se some paint on them basterds! .... please?
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:45 am

Haha, yes, paint will come soon. I am always a bit nervous though. It is silly, but I am not a very good painter and so I am always reluctant to mess up nice models. I have resolved to just paint models lots now and not worry so much about finding the perfect color scheme or not knowing how to do something.

My other problems is a little bit of jumping around between projects. I played with my Orks the other day, now I want to model more of them. And I had some new ideas for terrain. And I started a modular canal. And I want to paint my board. And my death guard need to be built. And I want to make an adeptus mechanicus squad. And make my pirate orks. And maybe some kroot. I should also paint the rest of my warriors of chaos army...

I have done some more sculpting on the models too. I got a bit excited with the glaives and masks and did some more. I also sculpted some more on the ogryn. I'll finish them off tonight and post them tomorrow.

Here it is, my goal: to paint to completion, 10 models each month. Doesn't matter what they are. Test models, old models in my drawer, deathsquads, 40k, fantasy. I will paint 10 models a month for the next year. Or maybe forever....

I may have also found a local opponent. Sultansean and I played a game this week (as he was in town) and his friend came as well. Last I heard he is planning on reading the rules and getting his models out of storage!
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:53 am

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Haha, yes, paint will come soon. I am always a bit nervous though. It is silly, but I am not a very good painter and so I am always reluctant to mess up nice models. I have resolved to just paint models lots now and not worry so much about finding the perfect color scheme or not knowing how to do something.

+1. I am exactly like this. I've only recently thrown it overboard and have JUST STARTED PAINTING.

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My other problems is a little bit of jumping around between projects. I played with my Orks the other day, now I want to model more of them. And I had some new ideas for terrain. And I started a modular canal. And I want to paint my board. And my death guard need to be built. And I want to make an adeptus mechanicus squad. And make my pirate orks. And maybe some kroot. I should also paint the rest of my warriors of chaos army...

I was painting up my Catachan squad, but I was like... meh, greens. Then my AT-43 models came in and my Forgeworld Cadian bits started grinning at me... now I'm converting an Urban Fighter squad using all that stuff. And of course I need to test-paint one mini to see how it ends up so I'm doing that now... but WAIT! A new box came in the mail today, with a Pegasus Hobbies Gothic Church! NICE! NOW I NEED TO BUILD THAT ONE...

Solution? DO finish one project, before you start another. Smile

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I may have also found a local opponent. Sultansean and I played a game this week (as he was in town) and his friend came as well. Last I heard he is planning on reading the rules and getting his models out of storage!

Eeeeexcellent.

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:50 am

Narcissus wrote:
Haha, yes, paint will come soon. I am always a bit nervous though. It is silly, but I am not a very good painter and so I am always reluctant to mess up nice models. I have resolved to just paint models lots now and not worry so much about finding the perfect color scheme or not knowing how to do something.
I used to be like this all the time... then I moved to Florida (4 years ago) and I started painting for sale in eBay. My mentality became "Screw how it ends up... I won't keep the model anyways!" so I started experimenting with techniques and colors that I would have NEVER used (for fear of screwing up the model)... I learned a lot, and the models ended up fairly decent too!

Moral of the Story? Have no fear!!! You screw up too bad? There is always Simple Green to remove your paint! Just Kidding


Narcissus wrote:
My other problems is a little bit of jumping around between projects. I played with my Orks the other day, now I want to model more of them. And I had some new ideas for terrain. And I started a modular canal. And I want to paint my board. And my death guard need to be built. And I want to make an adeptus mechanicus squad. And make my pirate orks. And maybe some kroot. I should also paint the rest of my warriors of chaos army...
I want to have YOUR problem! Hehehe


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Solution? DO finish one project, before you start another. Smile
Arachas is right. If you put the rule at an 'easy' level, you will be super happy. For example, instead of finishing the Canal Terrain piece, set the goal to paint the base and first coat. Then go and paint 2 Orks, no details. Then paint 3rd & 4th coat on the terrain. Then detail the Orks. Then detail the terrain. You would be SO eager to finish the terrain or the Orks, that you will push yourself on the 'dragging' tasks. Wink


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I may have also found a local opponent. Sultansean and I played a game this week (as he was in town) and his friend came as well. Last I heard he is planning on reading the rules and getting his models out of storage!
DOUBLE Eeeeexcellent. I may possibly start playing too! I met a nice local guy... very down-to-earth and if we can we will met to make his Squad and learn-play a mini-campaign (5 or 6 games) starting this Saturday. I may bring my Orks (The White WAAAGH!)... so I get motivated to finish them! I'm SOOOOO EXCITED! bounce

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:51 am

Just mail them over - I'll paint them Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:54 am

Hahahah! That could work too!

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:54 pm

I just got a mail from Sturmm for a game next month. Eeeexcellent. Mr. Burns

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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:22 pm

Here is a picture of two updated renegades. The vox caster guy used to have a helmeted head, but I changed it so he fit the renegade look better.



I also painted two deathguard test models. I painted all the primary highlights using an airbrush.


For the rust I used secret weapon weathering powders. I am a bit disappointed in the rust. I think I prefer a more orange look and these ended up more red. Please let me know what you think of these. Comments and criticisms are greatly appreciated.




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PostSubject: Re: Narcissus' imperial renegades and chaos cultists   Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:58 pm

I think the deathguard look sweet. I really like the overall appearance of the armour. I agree that the rust doesn't look quite as good as your usual rust.
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