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PostSubject: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 4:44 am

Hello forum.
You may have seen painting support groups on other forums (Ex warseer: http://www.warseer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=142). The idea is each month you must complete a certain amount of models and post pictures. People then provide comments. The purpose is to set a goal to complete a certain amount of models in a certain amount of time. Warseer does this based on points value. Participants are supposed to complete 200 points of fantasy or 40k in one month. You get 2 jokers (missed months) a year. At the end of 1 year you would then have a 2000 point army.

So the point of this is, is there interest in doing something similar for deathsquads on this forum? We could expand it a little to include terrain, models, and dioramas if people wanted. It would help to generate more activity in the painting section, to get more painted squads, and to help improve each others' painting skills.

If you are interested please post here. Also, lets try to figure out some criteria for monthly goals. I may not be the best person to administer this as I may be out of contact for some of the months, but I definitely would like to try and get it off of the ground. To make this work we really need at least 4 or 5 committed people to complete the goals for the first few months.

Check out the entries on warseer and post away!
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 5:08 am

I like the idea... but we'd have to do a squad a month. Wink

Nah, I love it. The criteria are the main problem. Should we have them? Maybe two officers / three recruits a month? (EASY! then again, with all the modelling...)
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 9:28 am

Since the only 40K stuff I paint are commission pieces, I doubt I'd be much of a contributor to the Beasty...unless, of course, any minis painted would fit into the scheme of things. Suspect
The level would have to be different than for a painting group that was aiming at turning out "armies". D.S is geared at producing much smaller cadres of troops that are more heavily converted than would be practical for larger scale games. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 10:30 am

Agree with the concept and the suggested reduction of scale. Not sure how much I'd actually manage, since I probably won't be able to spray undercoat for the next couple of months (below zero Celsius tends to turn the spray to powder) but I'll give it a good go. I think including terrain would be a great plan and I'd also included dioramas as they contain miniatures... seems logical.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 10:42 am

jammydodger wrote:
probably won't be able to spray undercoat for the next couple of months (below zero Celsius tends to turn the spray to powder)

Spray inside, be sure to vent the room plenty. I did it in the bathroom at my old apartment. I have a shed these days. Wink

But yes, I'll agree everything goes. It's just a thread to keep each other motivated, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 11:56 am

A slow but steady pace could be 2 officers or 3 recruits. With a 'big guy' counting as two.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 7:56 pm

DeafNala-I have no problem with doing non-DS stuff for it, as long as no one else does.

It would be good to stay fairly flexible so people aren't intimidated and so that is is achievable. 2 officers/3recruits/big guys count as 2 sounds pretty good. Adding in terrain and dioramas and there is plenty to keep people busy with 1 object per month.

At this rate a squad would take 3 months for officers and 4 months for recruits. Maybe 2 officers/4 recruits, so that a gamer who followed that pace for a full year would complete 2 squads, a pretty decent pace. That pace also allows for conversions and things.

I am glad there is so much interest. Keep the ideas rolling!
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 17, 2011 8:16 pm

I like the idea as anything that helps me keep even the slightest bit of focus is a good thing. However there is no way that I would commit to units for larger scale games (40k WFB etc.). All I do these days is characters, vehicles, and terrain for the most part. One thing I can tell you is that the more anal retentive I get with the finished project the longer it takes me.

My suggestion would be to start of the group with letting each person lay out there base plan with monthly targets or something and then see if they can keep it Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 18, 2011 10:13 am

I think it's a great idea. As I have mentioned in my Templar thread, in my my club we have something called Stick & Carrot. It's a 6 month painting support group where each participant has to paint one unit each month and after six months you have a small army. I'm currently using it to expand my Templar army and it really works.

Here on Death Squads forum we could do something like that. Though I think a whole year is a bit too long. Even six months seems to be quite enough for a 10-12 man squad. I mean, I just painted 15 marines and two tanks in one month beside all the other stuff I'm doing. But then again, when I pick up that paintbrush it stays attached for a while Laughing
I don't think there should be any pre-set number of models. Instead each person who wants to join should set their own goals.

Here's an example:

The next six months I have the following I want to paint:

1st. and 2nd. month: My Renegade squad
3rd. and 4th. month: The last marines for my Chaos Army
5th. month: Fabius Bile for my Chaos Army
6th. month: My Hellhammer

As you can see this is a high model count and it could be smaller(or much larger). The important thing is that you set a goal and with a bit of cheering from your fellow Death Squads friends you reach that goal. And if you miss one month then try to catch up with it later. As long as you reach your goal at the end of the six months you have won!

As an extra little treat the people who finish all the models they intend to could get a chance for a little prize. That could be anything from a single model to a whole squad, from a tiny Nurgling to a fearsome Ogryn Wink
I wouldn't mind giving the first prize and the winner could be responsible for next and so on.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 18, 2011 12:17 pm

with my timing... i could be really hard Very Happy Next month i'm planning to create 2 (two) kroot models + 1-2 booby traps Very Happy and possibly it take longer Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 18, 2011 12:57 pm

Right now my goal is to get 3 pieces of terrain done this month. A fuel or water tank, a Power Generator of some kind and then either some tall plant area terrain or a 3 story building.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 12:46 am

mudboy-I really like the idea of doing goals for each person. It would also allow a balance of models, terrain, diorama and conversions.

So lets say each person sets a 6 month target. Then at the beginning of each month we will share out goals for the next month, highs and lows, and the painting and modelling completed as part of the support group.

Any ideas for a name for the group?
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 3:30 am

Name of group have no idea!!!!
But I like the idea and it will keep me motivated and on target for completion of my goals! as have set many in the past for myself and then forgot all about them as had noone motivating me to finish them!
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 5:28 pm

What about:

Paint Korps of Krieg
or Death Painters of Krieg

I don't know, some funny 40k universe reference.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeWed Jan 19, 2011 11:28 pm

Sounds like a great idea! It would be good to have something to keep me on track.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 12:41 am

You mean I am actually supposed to paint these models? I thought urban grey was just the way they came, and the special ones were shiny silver to show how important they are. Well this just totally changes the hobby.

I like the idea of a self directed program, and could probably run it at least until may, when my work starts.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 5:03 am

Sultansean, you should be able to get your squad done by May... Then maybe in Sept we can have a battle between fully painted squads. No more urban grey!
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 5:36 am

I've just about finished my Guard squad... and now I've put a new Slaanesh squad together. Great, just when I was able to play with a fully painted squad, I get a shiny new one... ;D
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 10:54 am

sultansean wrote:
You mean I am actually supposed to paint these models? I thought urban grey was just the way they came, and the special ones were shiny silver to show how important they are. Well this just totally changes the hobby.

It hurt's dosn't it? LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 12:34 pm

I'd be interested in a project like this. I might even get my squad finished.
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 1:29 pm

I need some motivation to finish a few painting projects in the next couple of months (sleep won't be an option anyway with a little one coming soon!). Chaos cultists, orks and a few other bits (not to mention the WoC army I had started).

I reckon I could get involved.

Laney Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 4:14 pm

This is great. There seems like a lot of interest. We just need a good name and then I'll start a new thread where we can post our goals.

Any good ideas for a name for the painting support group?

-Deathsquds painting support group (a bit boring)
-Paint Korps of Krieg

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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 4:23 pm

POSSESSED PAINTERS FROM HELL!...The Geek Squad has already been taken. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeThu Jan 20, 2011 8:50 pm

Adeptus Paintius?
Da Red Paintaz?
Paint or Death (Squads)
Paint for the Paint Throne!
Paint for the Paint god!
Mordheimer's Minions?
The Path of the Painter?
Eat your way to being more colorful? (maybe Kroot shouldn't name anything...)
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PostSubject: Re: Painting support group?   Painting support group? I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 21, 2011 2:51 am

LOL I was quite taken by Painters from Hell! But then Paint for the Paint God! got spotted - genius. I'll now have to shout that before every painting session (she knows I'm mad anyway!)

Laney cheers
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