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Devlan
Posts : 21 Join date : 2010-09-02 Age : 28 Location : Scranton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: New Chaos list Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:26 pm | |
| Lord Incantaus (CSM) Mark of Khrone Power Armour Chain-Axe Bolt pistol
Brother Marzeh (champion) Mark of Khrone Las-Pistol Combat Knife Flak Armour
Chosen Zakair Mark of Nurgle combat Knife Grenade Launcher Carpace Armour
Chosen Veticon Mark of Nurgle combat Knife Carpace Armour
5 The asparing (Cultists) Auto Pistol Mesh Armour Combat Knife
Brother Annhialtor Constas Mesh Armour Heavy Stubber 10pts left over
Im a colusal noob but I liked mordheim and i love 40k so this should be a good fit. | |
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Laney
Posts : 3352 Join date : 2010-02-13 Age : 48 Location : Colchester, Essex, England
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:16 pm | |
| Ok, so Khorne it is. My suggestions are based on how 'Khorne' you want the unit to be. The space marine is kitted out well given his strengths. I would probably make the champion undivided (it's free and the heavy bolter option (they are the only ones who can get it) later on could just be amazing) - Rather than put him in close combat use him as a sniper - possibly with a bolter longer term (see DoZer I did listen when I wrote my chaos list! ). Biggest list changer is the Rare 5 factor (it is tucked away in the rulebook). Essentially, you can have any Rare 5 or less (including common) items during initial set up, but none with greater rarity (unless you have a special rule that says otherwise) Carapace is Rare 7 so not available at initial recruitment. The current depot for the heavy stubber has it as common (this is a misprint - Rare 6/7 also - but you can always play it as printed - it will be changed for v0.6.4). I'd drop the armour off the cultists (it will rarely save them and is a huge points drain). An alternative would be to give them auto guns rather than pistols - or stick with the auto pisols and just use them as meat shields. Spend the money saved from the carapace and mesh (and mark of khorne?) on giving a weapon to the second chosen and perhaps getting a second annhilator. Plus, remember that the grenade launcher only has limited ammo that needs replacing - so a couple of extra grenades wouldn't go amiss. Hope this helps - enjoy playing Death Squads! Cheers Laney | |
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Devlan
Posts : 21 Join date : 2010-09-02 Age : 28 Location : Scranton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Sun Jun 19, 2011 5:43 pm | |
| Lord Incantaus (CSM) Mark of Khrone Power Armour Chain-Axe Bolt pistol Brother Marzeh (champion) Mark of Khrone Las-Pistol Combat Knife Flak Armour Chosen Zakair Mark of Nurgle combat Knife Grenade Launcher Flak Armour Chosen Veticon Mark of Nurgle Lasgun combat Knife Flak Armour 5 The asparing (Cultists) Auto Pistol Combat Knife Brother Annhilator Constas Mesh Armour Hvy Stubber Brother Annhilator Bob Mesh Flamer Despite the stubber being misprinted I would to try it out and once updatred ill remove . Khorne is my favorite god and thought of putting on of his chosen on a ranged weapon appaled me, he wont ensure khrone gets maxinum blood. Took off armour on cultist new name the meatsheilds. Added Bob the Annhitor (flamer) 2nd Chosen got a new las gun demoted carpace to flak. Everything checks out now i think 21 points left over one cultist with no gun? | |
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Laney
Posts : 3352 Join date : 2010-02-13 Age : 48 Location : Colchester, Essex, England
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Mon Jun 20, 2011 1:28 am | |
| Looks good to me - maybe just keep the credits for the CSM upkeep cost (you'll probably need to replace one or two of the cultists anyway - average is two kills per game (ish)). Cheers Laney | |
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Mordheimer
Posts : 9756 Join date : 2009-07-12 Age : 51 Location : Elizabeth City, NC (USA)
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Tue Jun 21, 2011 4:44 pm | |
| You need Weapons Training, Heavy Weapon to use a Grenade Launcher. Other than that... the list looks scary!!! | |
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Arachas
Posts : 1880 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 40 Location : Secret Volcano Lair in The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:57 am | |
| Shouldn't you give that Khorne Champion (Marzeh) a close combat weapon? Combat knife for a berserker warrior... nahh. | |
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Devlan
Posts : 21 Join date : 2010-09-02 Age : 28 Location : Scranton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Wed Jun 22, 2011 8:49 am | |
| He has a chain axe and a pistol which i believe give one extra attack unless that has to be 2 melee weapons. (I'm bit of a Noob) Greystone and I should have a few bat reps next week (played 2 games but havn't written up the games yet) | |
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Arachas
Posts : 1880 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 40 Location : Secret Volcano Lair in The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:39 am | |
| Your CSM has a chainaxe, your Khorne champion doesn't... | |
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Mordheimer
Posts : 9756 Join date : 2009-07-12 Age : 51 Location : Elizabeth City, NC (USA)
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Wed Jun 22, 2011 12:49 pm | |
| I agree with Arachas... the power of the Mark of Khorne must be maximized... drop the Las-pistol. Sword and Chain! Nasty combo! | |
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Devlan
Posts : 21 Join date : 2010-09-02 Age : 28 Location : Scranton, Pennsylvania
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Thu Jun 23, 2011 10:44 pm | |
| OH i see my bad | |
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whiskeytango
Posts : 17 Join date : 2011-11-02 Age : 38
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:57 pm | |
| I'm confused. Can you even buy a chainaxe at creation? Its rare 7 isnt it? | |
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Mordheimer
Posts : 9756 Join date : 2009-07-12 Age : 51 Location : Elizabeth City, NC (USA)
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:02 pm | |
| - whiskeytango wrote:
- I'm confused. Can you even buy a chainaxe at creation? Its rare 7 isnt it?
You are 100% correct whiskeytango. You can't start with a Chain-Axe because it is Rare 7. Gentlemen... we just SCHOOLED by the noobie! Shame on ALL of us! | |
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DoZer
Posts : 780 Join date : 2009-07-12 Age : 39 Location : Portland, Oregon (USA)
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:35 pm | |
| - Mordheimer wrote:
- whiskeytango wrote:
- I'm confused. Can you even buy a chainaxe at creation? Its rare 7 isnt it?
You are 100% correct whiskeytango. You can't start with a Chain-Axe because it is Rare 7.
Gentlemen... we just SCHOOLED by the noobie! Shame on ALL of us! Why haven't I noticed this thread before??? Its what I get for only responding to threads pertinent to design..... I sometimes worry about you three.... way to earn that Dev tag!!! | |
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DoZer
Posts : 780 Join date : 2009-07-12 Age : 39 Location : Portland, Oregon (USA)
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:10 pm | |
| I should put a temporary ban on all three of you **Looks at Mord, Laney, and Arachas**
TERRIBLE advice to give this gentlemen.....ESPECIALLY since you all missed some pretty major things in his initial squad.
If you were in front of me I would smack all three of you across the head.
My changes and comments in red.
Lord Incantaus (CSM) Mark of Khrone Power Armour Sword Bolt pistol
Cannot start with the chainaxe as the rarity is to high. Keep the sword, as its great in a MoK Berserker
Brother Marzeh (champion) Mark of Khrone Slugger Axe Flak Armour Changed the las-pistol to a slugger. It gives you the same strength as the las-pistol, and the start of the campaign you won’t be facing many opponents with armor on. The combat knife is ok for recruits and a back up weapon, but you need to maximize the MoK with your officer. I prefer axes, but you can replace it with whatever you would like
Chosen Zakair Mark of Nurgle combat Knife Autogun Flak Armour
He can’t use the grenade launcher, as it requires the heavy weapon skill to use. Switch this out for an autogun instead.
Chosen Veticon Mark of Nurgle Autogun combat Knife Flak Armour Switch out the lasgun for the autogun, again you won't need that AP value.
5 The asparing (Cultists) Auto Pistol Combat Knife
Brother Annhilator Constas Mesh Armour Grenade Launcher 2 x Frag Grenade
1 x Incendiary
Cannot start with the heavy stubber as it is rare 7. Switch it out for that grenade launcher, and buy some frag and incendiary.
Brother Annhilator Bob Mesh Flamer
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So with those changes you have 5 credits left over. If you want you can drop that grenade launcher/grenades for another flamer, that will net you another 24 credits. That will give you a net of 28, which you can purchase another cultists and just let him run around with a knife, probably would be best to call him "Meatshield". | |
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Laney
Posts : 3352 Join date : 2010-02-13 Age : 48 Location : Colchester, Essex, England
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Tue Nov 08, 2011 2:29 pm | |
| I feel really bad about this (I did pick up some of the wrong stuff - at least on the first list - but no excuses). I'll try better next time DoZer! Laney:D | |
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Mordheimer
Posts : 9756 Join date : 2009-07-12 Age : 51 Location : Elizabeth City, NC (USA)
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Tue Nov 08, 2011 3:12 pm | |
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Arachas
Posts : 1880 Join date : 2010-08-15 Age : 40 Location : Secret Volcano Lair in The Netherlands
| Subject: Re: New Chaos list Wed Nov 09, 2011 7:44 am | |
| Thing is, guys... we ARE n00bs when it comes to Chaos Cultists! I've got a Slaanesh squad that I've used like three games. DoZer is master of Chaos, not me! Having said that, I'm going to go and curl up in a corner now... | |
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