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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:57 am

Sorry to hear LGW... Sad

The Ramirez model is GREAT. So are the extra Tiles. Then, its $35 more... so the pledge keeps going UP, resulting in more money and less bang for the buck.

They need to beef up the Biohazard pledge, so many people like me join in.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:05 am

I really don't think the Biohazard pack will get increased it seems the current stretch plan involves you spending more money to get more. I bet the next stretch goal after the 2nd Cthonian will be a STRAIN VERSION of Sergeant Ramirez.

Which sucks if you haven't bought the original Sergeant Ramirez.....

It seems this is going to happen more with the SW:BFA.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:54 am

They have slowly been beefing up the biohazard with the addition of doubles of many of the interesting models (cthonian, grendlr, brimstone, scythe witch, drone). They've also been adding the unique resin add-on characters and strain versions for $10 (which is a very good deal compared to what they would retail for).

Really, if you like the core game these additions are mostly bonuses. I will be interested to see what stretch goals are rolled out close to the closing day to really up the ante a bit. The kickstarter deal is a much better package than you will get with the release in stores. They still need to balance the kickstarter goodies with the need to make a profit and to build capital and fund other parts of the project. It is a pretty cool business model if they can successfully balance preorders, raising capital, and keeping the customers happy.
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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:30 am

yes the word is SLOWLY....

I dislike those stretch goals that only reward those who added more $$ by buying "this awesome mini that has no rules but we like it so we're going to make it anyway cause we can" and then adds in another mini that only benefits those who actually purchased "this awesome mini that has no rules but we like it so we're going to make it anyway cause we can"

eg Niven banks. the glow sticks strain, and the optical vanguard, the stretch goal ONLY rewards those who have purchased them, not any who has just pledged to the BIOHAZARD level.

The Stretch goals do not help the basic level only those who have the extra $$$ to buy all of the crazy add-ons.

just my $0.10NZD

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:02 am

LGW: Sorry to hear.

I am still holding out on this project. I may join but want to see some more things without "buying" xtra stuff.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:28 am

I'm with DaBank... I don't mind spending... but that is an AFTER (impulse) buy. I do NOT know the game, so they NEED to hook me up... tempt me. If they keep beefing up for stuff you BUY extra, then is not really appealing to get the MAIN game. I could order the Terrain ($30) and be happy. Business wise, this is a mistake for them.

Damn... they need to learn from Zombicide (it is a CMON venture too!) They increase the Biohazzard with few more things (look at what Zombicide did with The Eagle and Cardboard Tube Samurai) that make people go "I buy this thing... AWESOME!" On the 'checkout' (just like the supermarket) they would say "Well, for $50 I get very cool and unique 30 models... and for $30 I get 6 unique models... why not? Ohhh, add the Terrain! It would be great!" Now the pledge went up from $30 to $210 AND you get a new player hooked up on Sedition Wars.

They need to TEMP people... throw in bait. Even now, if they announce that they would beef up Biohazzard (1 extra tiles from their package), 1 transparent and one g.i.d. model (the crappy ones), a couple of extra 'famous' characters (maybe a robotic like Terminator, or a Drone like the Borg) then people would see the main package as way too cool to pass.

I'm waiting. I may bid for the extras through SOMEONE else (so I get the Strains)... don't know.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Thu Jun 21, 2012 3:10 pm

I think this kickstarter was a great deal some time ago. I can see why people are holding out, but I'd be happy if it finished tomorrow (it is a really good deal). The kickstarter mirrors the zombicide one really closely, with improvements/additions to the main game and extra $10 characters - the only difference I can see is that the stretches seem to have been shorter and they have added too many 'pay extra' things, that aren't very appealing (opticamo, GID), which has made the really good deal seem pricey.

They'll probably get an extra $20 out of me for Banks and Ramirez, but the next one up had better be a free addition (and preferably not a Cinema promo model - but a real extra in the game.

All I can say is - my new Elysian squad is going to look the coolest!

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Fri Jun 22, 2012 2:52 am

I have been looking around and trying to find out more about the additional figures. Are they going to be resin or plastic? I couldn't find it on the kickstarter page.


This thread also has lots of interesting information about the game and its contents.
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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Fri Jun 22, 2012 8:14 am

Progress report: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster

2,132 Backers
$375,549 pledged of $20,000 goal
8 days to go

I adjusted my Zombicide pledge... now I will have $40 more to put towards this. When? Don't know.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:44 am

$386,225 - getting close to the $390K stretch goal (I might have to raise my pledge by $20 for Niven and Ramirez - but I want to know what is up next!).

Cheers Laney

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sat Jun 23, 2012 6:47 pm

Double Posting I know, but...

For all you AI Drone lovers out there, you should get a huge kick out of this one.


The large AI Drone actually carries quite a large load out of smaller drones. In the game, these are represented by cardboard counters. But, since all of you have been so great, if we hit this stretch every Biohazard set will get a set of 6 baby drones free!


Ships March 2013 with the rest of the new sculpts. Aren't they adorable?

Also, to help us get there, check out the optional Hexen Phaedrus!


Brilliant, beautiful, and utterly merciless Dr. Hexen Phaedrus is a specialist in nano-technology and neural interface systems. A key researcher at the Alabaster Science facility, she has advanced knowledge of how the Strain nano-phage works, and a desire to see it contained and controlled. Oddly enough, she seems immune to the infection herself, due to safeguard nano-tech she developed.

Despite her co-operation and her willingness to accompany the Vanguard through the facility, her directions and information seem almost intentionally confused. Could she be steering the Vanguard towards a brutal confrontation with the Strain?
And what purpose would that serve?

Unravel her mysteries for $10, ships March 2013 (unpainted and unassembled).



I've bumped mine up for all the extra minis - they are very cool! We've just got to hit the the $430K stretch - strain version of hexen!

Cheers Laney

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:06 pm

Is this legal? I believe you can do this legally only in Las Vegas, NV. USA>Shocked

Unravel her mysteries for $10



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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:31 am

Progress report: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster

2,257 Backers
$409,336 pledged of $20,000 goal
6 days to go

Hmmm... the damned Drones are calling me. Hexen Phaedrus... WOW!



CRAP! This thing is gonna be expensive. I want the Biohazzard ($100), the Terrain ($30), the Lights Out Campaign Pack ($50) and all the characters (4 so far, $40). That is $220. My wallet can't take it. Paying that kind of cash now... wow. I don't know. AGHHH!!! Little Frustrated

Why the Lights Out Campaign Pack? Because every Opticamo Pack gets a Opticamo Kara and the rest of the characters! I think I will wash the glow-in-the dark with green, to get some definition, and maybe drybrush (dust result) with metal all the parts. That way they look like the flesh is glowing (but detailed) and the metal sections have glow 'seeping' through. I want to do a wash with blue on the transparent models, get definition.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:18 pm

Yea, I can do a PO box as a last minute deal.

Crap...I am not sure if I can swing the money...it is getting too step. There are some goodies but this still is not as good as apocolpse or zombicide.
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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:09 pm

That is exactly my point... "too step". It is a good deal. For $220, it includes LOTS of amazing stuff (and a great game... bonus!)... it is 220 smackaroos! Shocked I went 'crazy' with Zombicide and while the deal may have not be as great (in terms of how much stuff you got) it was definitely a better bang-for-the buck... Zombicide was $0.89 per model (plus a 'free' game) and SW is ~$1.89... and it is not like you can 'decrease the number of models' (getting 90 vs 115)... HARD decision!

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:09 pm

Exactly, it is a tough call. A $1.89 is still good compared to GW pricing and others.

Just want to note I am not saying this is a bad game or bad models but now when I look at the money going out of my wallet and I am thinking "do I really need it"? I really want it but do I need it? affraid

The good news is, it looks like we found a place to live and will have a new physical addres but between first month rent, deposit plus deposits for utilities I know I won't have the money. I was truly hoping a miracle would happen. I will wait for it to come out and I will maybe pickup a box then and help out a local gaming store.
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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:30 pm

Congrats DaBank! Good for you guys. I know... no matter how prepared you are for the move, it hits you like a ton of bricks.

Want vs Need... uff! The yard on our rented house is a freaking jungle. Catachans move OUT because it was way to overgrown. We happened to go by a house with a huge moving truck and a Ridding Lawnmower in front with a 'for sale' sign. We snatched this 42" mover (retails in Lowes at $1,000) and a gas container for $350. I have to buy a new battery ($40)... but now I don't have to pay $75 a month (min) to the yard done. If I cut the grass 8 times, I pay for the thing.

Now... I need $220 for Sedition Wars! Just Kidding

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:04 am

I'm not bothering with the opticamo and GID stuff (IMO - too much). But the base deal is pretty amazing - plus, at the current rate of growth those next few stretch goals will likely be smashed (so potential for for more goodies. If it is about mini numbers, maybe get the Biohazard x2 pack and ditch the opticamo and the $10 extra minis (you get a second whole biohazard level game to sell on ebay to recover your money too! - or extra tile set, more minis etc)

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:06 am

WTF



its the Firefly crew.... DAM it to HECK....

A part of me so wants to get this game but the other part of me is annoyed at the amount of ADD-ONS they have to the game its starting to feel a bit cluttered.

Nice minis but I think there is to much cheddar that is taking away from the main set... either that or I am peeved I don't have a spare $165USD

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:48 am

Lord GreyWolf wrote:

its the Firefly crew.... DAM it to HECK....

AWESOME!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:53 am

Progress report: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster

2,349 Backers
$437,318 pledged of $20,000 goal
5 days to go

Bonecrabs? Sure! They are cruel, mean... and AWESOME. The Firefly Crew? DAMN IT! Must have...

Biohazzard: $100
Terrain Pack: $30
Lights Out Campaign Pack: $50
Dr Susan Ridley: $10
Niven Banks: $10
Sergeant Ramirez: $10
Dr. Hexen Phaedrus: $10
Mercenary Crew: $20

Screw the glow in the dark and transparent models. That is $190... YIKES! That is a reduction of $30, for 30 less models. I don't know. AGHHH!!! Little Frustrated I need to find some cash... in a hurry.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:23 am

dam I am so tempted to get back on this wagon but....

$100 Biohazard level
$25 postage
$10 Dr Susan Ridley
$10 Niven Banks
$10 Sergeant Ramirez
$10 Dr Hexen Phaedrus
$20 Merc Crew

total: $185USD [$235NZD] fark me days that is still alot and it doesn't include.

$30 Terrain pack
$25 Extra Tile set

I can add them on later when we get the email regarding our order. [Which was at least a month after Zombicide ended]. So Mord you really can afford it just bid what you can afford and then add the rest on later when you have more funds. I may just do the basic level with the merc crew and then add the rest on later [ $100+25+20= $145USD [185NZD]]


with 5 days to go I may still find the funds to chuck my lot back in on this project... I am SO tempted with the additional firefly Crew fark the rest that got me re-hooked. I know my wifey will most likely play the game if she can play the merc crew.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 9:12 am

Strangely, the firefly crew don't interest me too much (I might add $20 for the minis in the end though) - maybe it's the bad hair or standing poses of the concept art that I don't like. I've never watched the programme either.

However, if the stretch goals go up I might be tempted. This will go way over $500K at the current rate (really hotting up like Zombicide did) so hopefully there will be some more biohazard only cool stuff in the stretch goals.

Laney:D

EDIT: $454,112 currently - Braincrabs here we come. More free stuff, mixed with a few $10 fanboy goodies would be cool for the next stretches

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:55 pm

I think the 4 firefly crew will be expanded.

it seems to me the Merc crew it will draw in a few punters and depending on what else is added in the coming days it should exceed 600k if not more.

I think I might be able to get some extra $$ if so I'll order the Biohazard level, postage and merc crew..

having the firefly crew would influence my wife to have a game as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Kickestarter: Sedition Wars: Battle for Alabaster   Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:07 pm

Id want the firefly crew just for the RPG game:)
on a side note infected firefly crew would be awesome

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